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Showing posts with label Ortmann. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ortmann. Show all posts

Wednesday, July 14, 2010

Help... I'm going gray!!!!

No not my hair... my Ortmann's! Years ago all Ortmann tires where the much beloved "gray dust" tires. Well the formula had to be changed, and for a time the tires were the "blue dust" tires. They weren't quite as well received. But now, now friends and neighbors it seems the latest Ortmann's or at least the dust you get when you sand the tires is... unmistakeably... GRAY!!!!

Is the compound the same? No, I've had the good fortune to exchange emails with Michael Ortmann himself and according to Mr. Ortmann the compound is not the same. But in some very informal testing I've done this afternoon after the box o' tires I bought arrived directly from him, I can say they sure feel good. I bought tires for the MRRC Porsche 910 and for many of the vintage Carrera 124's. They grip like the Ortmann's of old and they sand easily. I'm very happy to have that old familiar tire back again... even if it's different... maybe. :)

To contact Michael Ortmann and request order forms and order direct:
michael.ortmann@gmx.de

Help... I'm going gray!!!!

No not my hair... my Ortmann's! Years ago all Ortmann tires where the much beloved "gray dust" tires. Well the formula had to be changed, and for a time the tires were the "blue dust" tires. They weren't quite as well received. But now, now friends and neighbors it seems the latest Ortmann's or at least the dust you get when you sand the tires is... unmistakeably... GRAY!!!!

Is the compound the same? No, I've had the good fortune to exchange emails with Michael Ortmann himself and according to Mr. Ortmann the compound is not the same. But in some very informal testing I've done this afternoon after the box o' tires I bought arrived directly from him, I can say they sure feel good. I bought tires for the MRRC Porsche 910 and for many of the vintage Carrera 124's. They grip like the Ortmann's of old and they sand easily. I'm very happy to have that old familiar tire back again... even if it's different... maybe. :)

To contact Michael Ortmann and request order forms and order direct:
michael.ortmann@gmx.de

Sunday, May 27, 2007

Tire Test: Urethane vs. Silicone

Much discussion has been had about the relative merits of Ortmanns vs. Super Tires, or urethane tires vs. silicone tires, particularly in the US and Canada, where these two types of tires are popular. Ortmann tires have a reputation for gripping regardless of dust, while silicone tires are said to grip best on dustless track. This test was designed to measure relative track speeds of these tires in clean and dusty conditions.


All tires were run on the same car (Fly Racing Porsche GT1-98), with the same wheels (Slot.It 17x10mm). This car was selected because it is very stable, and is easy to drive consistently. Testing was done on the same lane of East New York Raceway, a 61’, wood track surfaced with interior flat latex paint. For the first test, the track was cleaned by running a car with Super Tires, cleaning the tires every few laps with a sticky label, until no more dust was picked up. As a result, the track was very clean and dust free. Tires were then tested one after the other, for 50 laps each.

The second round of testing was done several days later, after a moderate coating of atmospheric dust had accumulated. Ortmann and rubber tire cars had been run in the interim. No track or tire cleaning was done at any time for the second test. Dust was apparent, adhering to the tires, after each pair had been run.

All tires fit the Slot.It rims very well, with a flat tread. All tires were very true as run. We rounded the outer tire shoulder slightly, if it were square cornered. Each pair of tires was run for 50 laps; best lap times are shown below:

Clean track:
Super Tires Silicone 4.922 sec.
Ortmann Urethane 4.935
Slot.It S2 Silicone 4.981
Slot.It S1 Silicone 5.058
Tru Grip Urethane 5.137
Jel Claws Rubber 5.148

Moderately dusty track:
Slot.It S2 Silicone 4.977 sec.
Super Tires Silicone 4.979
Ortmann Urethane 4.987
Slot.It S1 Silicone 5.048
Tru Grip Urethane 5.176
Jel Claws Rubber 5.176

On a very clean track, the Super Tires were fastest. On a moderately dusty track, the Slot.It S2’s were slightly faster than the Super Tires and the Ortmann tires, and both Slot.It tires were slightly faster than they had been on a clean track. However, a difference of .003, or even .010 seconds may be attributable to chance, or uneven driving (an insignificant difference).

Only the Slot.It tires appeared to be unaffected by the presence or absence of dust. All the other tires were significantly slower on the dusty track. Ortmann tires were .052 sec slower, which is a significant difference. These tests show results which differ from what we expected, so expect more tests to follow!